Legislature(2013 - 2014)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/07/2014 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= SB 119 BUDGET: CAPITAL TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SB 201 CRIMINAL TRESPASS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 19 PERM. MOT. VEH. REGISTRATION/TRAILERS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 263 EXTEND SENIOR BENEFITS PAYMENT PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
SENATE BILL NO. 201                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to the crime of trespass."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:48:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BERT STEDMAN,  introduced SB  201. He  related that                                                                    
the bill  gave some flexibility  to private land  owners, so                                                                    
that they did not have to  put up "no trespassing" signs all                                                                    
over  their property.  He shared  that as  a landowner,  you                                                                    
have  the right  to  regulate activities  on your  property.                                                                    
However, in  Alaska, current  state law  gives a  person the                                                                    
privilege to  enter and remain  on unimproved  or apparently                                                                    
unused land  that isn't posted with  "no trespassing" signs.                                                                    
Furthermore,  a  sign must  be  placed  at each  roadway  or                                                                    
access point  onto the property.  Many Alaskans  own private                                                                    
property  in remote  locations  with  inclement weather.  No                                                                    
trespassing signs can be blown  down, removed by vandals, or                                                                    
covered  by snow.  The lack  of visible  signage should  not                                                                    
absolve trespassers  of guilt. Senate Bill  201 would repeal                                                                    
Alaska   Statute   11.46.350(c),    thereby   removing   the                                                                    
requirement  that no  trespassing  signs be  posted at  each                                                                    
roadway and  at every way  of access to private  property in                                                                    
order for criminal  trespass laws to be  enforced. It should                                                                    
be the  responsibility of  the individual  to know  who owns                                                                    
the property  that they want  to access.  Today's technology                                                                    
allows many  options for individuals to  identify public and                                                                    
private property  boundaries such as  topo maps that  can be                                                                    
downloaded on a smart phone  or GPS. In addition, the public                                                                    
can access  maps showing property boundaries  from the state                                                                    
Department  of   Natural  Resources,  the   U.S.  Geological                                                                    
Survey, as well as municipal plats available at city hall.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Fairclough  wondered   how  the   courts  would                                                                    
perceive the  actions of  a person  building a  structure on                                                                    
private property.  Senator Stedman responded that  there was                                                                    
no intention  to change a  property owner rights.  He stated                                                                    
that   the  landowner   would  be   allowed   to  post   "no                                                                    
trespassing" signs,  but would not  be required to  post the                                                                    
signs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:54:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Fairclough  wondered why  the current  version of                                                                    
the bill  was different  than the original  version. Senator                                                                    
Stedman stated  that it was  originally proposed  that there                                                                    
would be no  requirement to post a sign. He  stated that the                                                                    
Judiciary Committee  felt that  the requirement of  at least                                                                    
one posted sign  was a better alternative to  having no sign                                                                    
posted.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman remarked  that 95 percent of  land in Alaska                                                                    
was owned by native corporations.  He wondered if there were                                                                    
any  native  or  regional   corporations  that  opposed  the                                                                    
legislation. Senator  Stedman replied that he  was not aware                                                                    
of any issues with the regional corporations.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  wondered if  the legislation  would affect                                                                    
recreationalists who  might travel across  private property.                                                                    
Senator Stedman  responded that  the law  already prohibited                                                                    
someone  to  go on  property  without  the property  owner's                                                                    
permission. The legislation would not change that.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:00:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy  wondered if  the  bill  would change  the                                                                    
existing  law  regarding  hunting,  trapping,  and  fishing.                                                                    
Senator  Stedman   responded  that  the   legislation  would                                                                    
empower  landowners to  prosecute trespassers,  even without                                                                    
previously posting "no trespassing" signs.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer noted  that there was an  issue of squatting,                                                                    
so  people decide  to live  on empty  land. He  wondered how                                                                    
private  land owner  would be  affected by  the legislation.                                                                    
Senator Stedman  replied that  the bill  did not  change the                                                                    
landowner's rights to prosecute squatters.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer   wondered  if  the  squatter   could  argue                                                                    
ignorance,  because of  the lack  of  sign. Senator  Stedman                                                                    
responded that with  or without signs, no one  had the right                                                                    
to build on a property without the owner's permission.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer wondered if Senator  Stedman had signs on his                                                                    
private property.  Senator Stedman  replied that  he removed                                                                    
the "no trespassing" signs on  his property, because he felt                                                                    
that they were offensive and invited vandalism.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  wondered if  the issue  was transportation                                                                    
through  private property  or  activities  conducted on  the                                                                    
private property  Senator Stedman replied that  the activity                                                                    
on the land  was an issue, rather than  crossing through the                                                                    
land.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:06:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy  surmised  that  traversing  was  not  the                                                                    
issue.  Senator   Stedman  replied   that  there   could  be                                                                    
prosecution, but that was not a common issue.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  noted that many there  were large portions                                                                    
of private land that may  be traversed, without the traveler                                                                    
knowing  that  they  are moving  through  private  property.                                                                    
Senator Stedman replied that the  legislation did not change                                                                    
any of the rights of the property owner.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:11:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
NICOLENE   JORDAN,   SELF,  PALMER   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified  in favor  of the  legislation. She  stressed that                                                                    
the issue was the requirement  of the signs. She pointed out                                                                    
that she was  not against hunting and trapping,  but she was                                                                    
against  trespassing. She  stressed that  current technology                                                                    
allowed  for  people  to  determine  if  there  was  private                                                                    
property.  She  stressed  that the  current  issue  was  the                                                                    
requirement  to post  "no trespassing"  sign, and  felt that                                                                    
the  signs provided  an excuse  for law  enforcement to  not                                                                    
peruse action against trespassers.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
AL BARRETTE, SELF, FAIRBANKS  (via teleconference), spoke in                                                                    
support  of  the  current version  of  the  legislation.  He                                                                    
stated  that his  income relied  on wildlife  resources from                                                                    
his land.  He pointed out  that a global  positioning system                                                                    
(GPS) did not display the owner  of the land; rather it only                                                                    
showed where you are on the earth.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:18:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MARY   NANUWAK,   SELF,  ANCHORAGE   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
remarked  that  some  people  did  not  have  the  financial                                                                    
resources  to pursue  criminal action.  She wondered  if the                                                                    
bill  addressed  the  issue of  building  roads  on  private                                                                    
property.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Fairclough  stated that she knew  someone who was                                                                    
in support  of the bill, and  referred to a trooper  who was                                                                    
facing  an  issue  related to  the  trespassing  on  private                                                                    
property.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  looked at AS  136.03.30 stated that  in the                                                                    
prerequisites,  the  State  was   obligated  to  prove  that                                                                    
someone had trespassed on the land.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SB  201  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:25:23 AM                                                                                                                   
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10:34:00 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CSSB119 work draft verson O.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB119 Multi-Year Agency Summary 040714.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
CSSB 201(JUD) Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 201
SB 201 - AS 11.46.350.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 201
SB 201 ADN article.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 201
SB 201 explanation of changes.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 201
SB 201 support emails.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 201
SB201 opposition - Beal.msg SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 201
SB201CS(JUD)-DOA-PDA-03-29-14.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 201
SB201CS(JUD)-DOC-OC-03-29-14.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 201
SB 201 - AS 11.46.350.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 201
HB 19 Explanation of Changes.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 19
HB 19 Opposition Letters.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 19
HB 19 Motor Vehicle Registration Tax Paid on Elegible Vehicles.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 19
HB 19 Ringing up profits_ DMV clears $38 million for Alaska.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 19
HB 19 Section summary.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 19
HB 19 Support DMV Eligible Registration Classes.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 19
HB 19 Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 19
HB 19 Support Letters.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 19
Changes to HB 263 HHSS.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 263
HB 263 letter of support CC.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 263
HB 263 Foodbank letter of support.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 263
HB 263 SBP Demographics.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 263
HB 263 SBP Fact Sheet (01-31-14).pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 263
HB 263 Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 263
HB263 AARP Support.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 263
HB263(2014) letter of support.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 263
HB263 Agenet Letter.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 263
HB 263 Foodbank letter of support.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 263
HB263 AARP Support.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 263
SB119 Please support completion of the UA Engineering Facilities - Herzog.msg SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB119 Please Support -Consortium for Digital Learning Capital Grant - Bobo.msg SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB119 POA-2006-597 PDSEIS Comments.pdf SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB119 Removal of $35 million for Juneau Access project from Capital Budget - Bousson.msg SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB119 request for funding to complete Barnette Magnet Phase 4 - Ganguli.msg SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB119 retirement obligations - Gall.msg SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB119 Stop Funding the Proposed Susitna Dam Project - Service.msg SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB119 Stop throwing my money away - Trump.msg SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB119 support Barnette Magnet school funding - Dauel.msg SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB119 Support funding for Juneau Access Project - Brownfield.msg SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB119 susitna dam opposition - Folk.msg SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB119 Susitna-Watana Project - Glenn.msg SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB119 Testimony - Selmer.msg SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB119 Testimony - Yarnell.msg SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB119 Thank you for supporting Education - Schlaht.msg SFIN 4/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 119